DEATHWALKER'S GUIDE TO LIFE SEASON 4
EPISODE 3
Walking
Zenith Virago at the top of Kenepuru Sound © Kerry Sunderland 2026
APRIl 8, 2026
EPISODE 4
Walking
Deathwalker's Guide to Life host Kerry Sunderland speaks with Zenith Virago, the founder of the Natural Death Care Centre and the Deathwalker Training programme.
'Dying is an inside job and so it doesn't matter what the external circumstances are, it's all about what's happening on the inside.'
- Zenith Virago
- Zenith Virago
KŌRERO / CONVERSATION
Meet Zenith Virago
Above: Zenith Virago
In this episode, Zenith Virago - who coined the term 'deathwalker' - returns to Deathwalker's Guide to Life to speak with host Kerry Sunderland, four seasons later.
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As a deathwalker, celebrant and educator, Zenith offers guidance, support and care to inform, enable and empower people to be as capable and courageous as they can while accompanying and assisting them to experience their dying, loss or bereavement in the best way they can. She shares her extensive wisdom on the obvious and the subtle layers involved.
'The truth is always liberating. It may be painful, but it's liberating. And lies fester. They're cancerous. They just consume more, and you have to lie more. So it's always been my way to really encourage people, families, to tell the truth, even though that might be confronting in the moment. The payoff is always better.'
- Zenith Virago
- Zenith Virago
Catch up on previous episodes
Deathwalker's Guide to Life kicked off in 2021. Catch up by browsing past episodes, which you can listen to on all the major podcast platforms.